Ok.Ok. Downing Talks Leaving Judas Priest, Selling His Royalties & Why He Never Married

Ok.Ok. Downing Talks Leaving Judas Priest, Selling His Royalties & Why He Never Married


Seven years after exiting the steel band he based, Downing displays on his life in a brand new ebook.

Founding Judas Priest member Ok.Ok. Downing departed the enduring steel band seven years in the past, however he's wanting again on his time with the British steel titans in his new autobiography Heavy Duty: Days and Nights In Judas Priest.

His ebook covers many alternative points of his life: His troublesome childhood. His early struggles to make it as a musician. The ascension of Priest as a working class band right into a world class musical juggernaut. And the entire behind-the-scenes turbulence that one would possibly anticipate from a great rock ebook, together with his strained relationship with guitarist Glenn Tipton and his gripes with sure managerial choices.

There has been by no means been an official Priest autobiography. The solely official Priest biography was, funnily sufficient, Steve Gett’s Heavy Duty again in 1984. When requested why he launched his ebook now, Downing tells Streets Talkin, “It's actually now or by no means. I'm going to be 67 in a few months. Do it at this time since you by no means know what tomorrow brings.” He additionally believes many followers will relate to his private struggles and see him as an actual, odd individual — albeit one who managed to make it as a rock star.

Heavy Duty shows a much more private aspect of Downing than has been revealed in previous interviews the place the main focus was primarily on music. “Some of it was fairly emotional once I began to return,” the guitarist concedes of the writing course of with collaborator Mark Eglinton. “I've by no means talked about that darkish aspect with anybody. A number of it was by way of the journey. I'm reliving a variety of garbage that I needed to endure. It's not simply all garbage. There's numerous circumstances and issues that occur, and it will get fairly robust going.”

He additionally needed to be cognizant that Priest followers would additionally crave insider particulars on band collaborations and machinations. To that finish, the ebook balances the non-public, skilled and musical.

His autobiography is stuffed with many colourful anecdotes — his temporary encounter with Jimi Hendrix, his irritation with what he characterizes because the cocky, conceited Iron Maiden of the early '80s, how cocaine use (not his) led to sped-up songs onstage, and his varied escapades with groupies — together with extra hair-raising moments like enduring the band's subliminal messages trial, practically having his eye poked out onstage by an untrimmed guitar string, and being struck by a cab in Ibiza.

Friendly and chipper all through the interview, it's clear Downing feels lucky to have lived through the heyday of rock decadence between the '60s and the '80s. “I'm fortunate to have been born once I was as a result of it didn't occur earlier than and it by no means occurred once more,” he acknowledges.

Unlike a few of his getting old rock friends, Downing has by no means taken the marital plunge. He prefers having some independence and distance. “I believe [in] relationships that's higher actually,” he says. “There's fact in 'absence makes the center develop fonder.' It's higher like that. When you reside collectively, you're actually beneath one another's pores and skin. Everybody wants area. I'm not a spiritual man, and I've by no means actually come to phrases with marriage. I by no means actually notably needed youngsters. I used to be simply scared I wouldn't be capable to dedicate myself and do the justifiable factor. And the identical with the spouse. I used to be simply touring. I used to be at all times getting on trains, boats, and planes on a regular basis, by no means in a single place for lots of time. And that's why I by no means had pets. I had a pair once I was youthful, however [with] animals the sensitivity is there, particularly with canines. It's not truthful even to animals.”

His skittishness about dedication would possibly stem again to his dysfunctional, impoverished childhood. His neurotic father was a hypochondriac with OCD, at all times worrying about his three youngsters bringing germs dwelling. He additionally gambled his cash away on the canine tracks and perpetually argued his mom, which ultimately result in a bodily altercation in opposition to her when Downing was prepared to depart dwelling. (He has a a lot youthful brother who was born near that point.)

“When you see your mom and father preventing, you simply don't wish to be in that scenario,” assesses Downing. “Both my sisters and I are in our sixties now and none of us ever married, so there have to be one thing in it.”

His 40 years in Priest was like a distinct marriage. He felt extra kinship with fellow six-stringer Glenn Tipton in informal social conditions than within the studio, the place he says they didn’t at all times see eye to eye and the place his bandmate dominated artistic choices (and likewise reportedly steered managerial ones).

“For essentially the most half, you'd need to let him have his personal means, which wasn't at all times proper,” says Downing. “A number of instances folks, in the event that they don't get what they need, throw the toys out of the pram and nothing will get completed. So you used to need to put up with that typically.”

Even although he expresses criticisms of Tipton and Priest administration within the ebook, he additionally respects their contributions to the band itself. He is kind of happy with every part he and the band achieved over their 4 a long time collectively, and his ardour for Priest shines by way of in his storytelling. That mentioned, Ok.Ok. and Glenn had been at all times totally different.

“Glenn thought it was rock and roll to have loads of beers earlier than and on stage, and I'm only a perfectionist musically,” observes Downing. “Some guys go on there with a bottle of Jack in a single and and a cigarette within the different and play a couple of gigs. That's a technique of doing it, however that wasn't the best way I needed. People journey an extended whereas and spend rather a lot cash for tickets, and we definitely traveled an extended approach to get to a gig. When you go on the market, it's not proper if you really feel like your bandmate's going to the pub as an alternative of going to work. You get pissed off.”

By the tip, Downing says he had grown weary of issues. During the British Steel tour in 2010, the band had thought of doing an EP, which they’d by no means completed earlier than. Downing balked on the thought and was irked that over the past 12 months he was within the band, frontman Rob Halford had launched two solo albums and opened for Ozzy Osbourne on tour. “We can't be taking part in second fiddle to anyone else's solo profession,” notes Downing. “I wasn't doing it.”

He additionally disliked the standard of Priest exhibits by then. “The dwell efficiency received fairly garbage actually on the final tour [I did],” says Downing. “I’d be zipping across the stage at first of the tour, then I’d begin to really feel awkward about doing it as a result of every part slowed to a gentle stroll. Rob was reliant on the autocue, and Glenn was having a beer between each tune and earlier than we went on.”

Since his departure, Downing has stayed fairly quiet musically. He performed on a solo on Geoff Tate's 2013 album beneath the Queensr’che title, and he produced two albums by younger British metallers Hostile that featured bassist Alex Hill, the son of Priest bassist Ian Hill. He says Hostile received near a take care of Sony, however then “all of a sudden it received switched off like a lightweight.” He has indicated in latest months that he could be open to a reunion with Priest, notably now that Tipton can now not play nightly, however he additionally says, “That was actually a yr in the past now. Time is transferring on.” 

The guitarist by no means needed to do a solo album. He at all times felt impressed to be a part of a workforce and one thing greater; in his case, Judas Priest. “I wasn't working to make myself greater,” he asserts. “I used to be working to make the band massive and that's what I believed we had been all doing. And I believe we did that. Then clearly then you definitely get like each band — Rob peels off, Glenn peels off, sells their very own information, sells their very own t-shirts on their very own web sites. And I'm pondering, For fuck's sake, the principle occasion is gonna undergo some neglect.”

One of Judas Priests' strengths has at all times been their means to usher in totally different influences and take a look at various things, and their taking part in saved getting higher through the years.

“I believe for many of my life I used to be a rock guitar participant,” muses Downing. “Then most likely someday throughout Ram It Down [in 1988] I turned a musician,” he provides, laughing. “That's my evaluation. I'd completed so many issues so lengthy in a musical means that fitted the invoice, however then I broadened my musical horizons. During Ram It Down and particularly Painkiller, I had a starvation to do issues extra musically. Different scales and solos. Things have to maneuver on, don't they?”

While Priest lastly received a Grammy in 2010, they solely final yr made it on the poll for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame consideration, an extended overdue accolade. “Time's not likely on our aspect, you already know,” notes Downing of any future induction chance. “Since we had been nominated, [drummer] Dave Holland handed away. We're nonetheless right here, and I nonetheless really feel awkward about not figuring out how Glenn actually is. I do know he's on the market. If he's touring round, I hope he's okay. It's a type of issues the place I hope everyone simply retains me knowledgeable.”

As far as his personal life, Downing lately put his Astbury Hall property and 18 gap, 71-par luxurious course up on the market. While his course had completed properly up to now — he and Tipton performed again within the '80s and had been even talked about in Sports Illustrated then –  his hopes for it to draw professional consideration, plus his important funding, took a flip for the more serious in latest instances.

“I'm within the course of now of recovering every part else by way of the authorized channels,” continues Downing. “I made a couple of garbage enterprise strikes, however I can't complain often because I did okay. Lots of musicians find yourself with nothing actually, however I had an analysis on the property value in extra of £13 million. Quite a couple of million kilos value of music royalties and different belongings as properly. I'm suing a few attorneys for negligence. But to be sincere, the entire thing was a little bit of a noose round my neck.”

When he introduced earlier this yr that he was going to promote his songwriting royalties within the Priest catalog, which amass as much as $400,000 yearly, many individuals had been stunned. But he factors out that Dee Snider lately offered a major chunk of his Twisted Sister catalog. Both of their sixties, they like to have a bigger sum up entrance than look forward to smaller annual funds over time. Enjoy it now quite than later.

Such modifications will result in streamlining his life-style, which he has been considering for years. “Nothing occurs in your life till you one thing forces you to alter, you already know?” he remarks. “I've been doing [other] issues lately as a result of I'm not operating the property now. I employed 31 folks. Can you think about what a nightmare that was? Now I'm planning on doing issues that I used to do. Because it's all about time as you become older.”

The guitarist desires to start out fishing once more and has been driving his bike once more, together with a latest 16-mile journey alongside one of many native waterways. “It was very nice,” he recollects. “The climate was nice. It's a 30 year-old French bicycle, and I’ve been restoring it. It's a factor of magnificence. I've completed the vehicles, motorbikes, no matter. I just like the contemporary air now. It's fairly exhilarating and it's been a phenomenal summer time, you already know? I've simply completed stuff you by no means had the time to do earlier than, and to spend extra time with my household.”

While he doesn’t converse along with his father, Downing usually sees his mom, who’s in her mid eighties. “I spend extra time together with her now and my sister,” he says. “I'm simply doing regular, on a regular basis issues actually. Now I really feel like I'm able the place I can do to do what I need. I didn't have the time earlier than to spend taking part in guitar and recording bits and items, however now I’ll if I wish to try this. I'm effective with all of that.”